Domino 8.5.2 – My Experiences

I haven’t had time lately to look more at X Pages, but over the next month I plan to re-write a web site I look after with X Pages to see how it goes.

BUT, I have been running Domino 8.5.2 (BETA) on the laptop for work projects over the last 3 weeks. I was running 8.0.1 before the upgrade. How’s it gone? Well…….

1) It’s no faster to load than R8. (I didnt use 8.0.2 before anyone shouts)
2) ECLIPSE – it’s different:
– It seems slower to work with it somehow. I am getting faster with it, but I’m not up to my 8.0.1 speed.
– UI is still buggy. Leave the finger on the trackpad and unintentionally you’ll move windows around. There’s no ‘Barry Setup’ or anything to get back, so I usually save my work and restart the designer.
– Previewing in the client is PAINFULLY slower.
– I can’t just press the letter ‘H’ to get to the ‘Hello’ form. ALL DEVELOPERS USE THIS – I hope IBM finds a way to include it! It’s the most anoying thing about the new designer.

3) No ‘Teamstudio Configurator’ facility. YES it has a ‘Search’ option, but it’s not find and replace (which I use a lot, especially in UAT & deployment). I don’t know of any other development platform that does not include this facility.

4) The Designer ‘Start Page’. I wanted to keep this coming up when I started designer as I haven’t fully gotten used to it yet, but I had to turn it off. IT WAS APPEARING EVERYWHERE – and radically slowing down start up time for Designer. I wish these start pages were available as a pop-up when I wanted them and not exist on start-up. Annoying.

5) I ave not figured out this ‘Working Sets’ thing at all. I have a fairly cluttered database list.

6) Although it took a while I ‘ve found the new design element structure easy enough to follow. HOWEVER, the decision to move Framesets and Pages to somewhere in the middle baffles me. For the vast majority of applications these 2 elements are the start point. It made more sense to me to leave them at the top. And who’s bright idea was it to promote ‘Folders’ to third in the list. Does any developer use folders in designer any more?


1) It hasn’t crashed nearly as much as the 8.0.1 release – and it’s a beta! I have not run the new 8.0.2 relase which is meant to be faster & better, and I’m hoping I won’t have to.

2) The Eclipse UI (yes it has it’s good points)
– Yes it’s radically different but I found myself swapping between Domino 6.5.2 (that we use on a customer site) and my laptop without any problem fairly quickly. I also feel more like a programmer with it somehow. Maybe its my maturing years talking.
– The change to the properties boxes is brilliant. Copy and Paste Rules OK!

3) The server hasn’t given me any trouble at all. I even gave a customer demo with it.

4) AT LAST SOMETHING FOR DEVELOPERS! I am a PCLP Developer in R5-R8 and I didn’t notice any radical/useful new design elements or features for developers in any of the R6, R7 or R8 releases. Sure we can organise our script libraries/stylesheets, add web services, and the rest, but we were already doing this. NOTHING WAS NEW! Everything seemed targetted at Administrators and enhancing plug-ins (like Sametime). Does anyone use Composite Applications? I mean at all?

X Pages will change how I for one will work in the future and the ability to add new eclipse plugins makes me feel more secure that Domino will grow and allow developers to grow with it.
This is only the first of my posts on this subject. I’m not running any other Domino versions and use the clients for 100% of my work.


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2 Responses to “Domino 8.5.2 – My Experiences”

  1. Darren Duke Says:

    About number 4, R7 added web services. That was pretty useful no? It opens up a whole world of RAD BlackBerry development via MDS Studio.

  2. Samuel L. Says:

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